Attention Demon Guardians

[Mind Flayer]

I direct you all (especially Raistlin) to the Clan Hall...

wild.fiends.com/cgibin/Board6.exe?cfg=DC_Clans&msg=39

A reply would be greatly appreciated.


((This is a project aimed at jump starting genuine activity throughout Dragon Court. I implore you to take part.))

Thank you.

[Chaos Creator]

WTF?

Is this guy serious?

[Mind Flayer]

I am rather serious. You hold a high position on the clan rankings. There are still enough of the older RPers that frequent Dragon Court from time to time. As of now, DC is a wasteland. I believe, if only for a while, we can bring some life to it. Besides, it would be fun to use DC to RP rather than just click away at the massive amounts of junk floating around.

DC was revived shortly after the TS was brought back, but it fell away again a while afterward.

I understand attempts have been made in the past towards reviving the genuine life of DC, but I believe we need to be as united as possible towards the effort. I don't know how long you've been a part of DC. But I've been a part of it since the beginning, and I remember the days when the TS was bustling with great RPers, and each hero wasn't only made to cheat and hack the hell out of the game, but to develop a story. I remember Evil Uprising having its own table in the tavern and always causing distress. I remember the memorable RPs that we'd all have. That was when the game mattered to people. All it is now is a wild hack fest with great lack of enthusiasm.

You can scoff at me for this idea and for my efforts if you want. That's your choice. But no one from the old days who was truly involved in DC can honestly say that they wish it would never return. There's no doubt things can be restored, at least in part, and that DC can gain something more than hacked goods.

This is not an actual attempt at overthrowing Beth and having Fred change the game to be under the rule of Mind Flayer. No, it's to revive, most specifically, the Towne Square. I'm not doing this to cause a ruckus. I'm doing it to put some breath back into DC's old lungs.

It seems you're all fairly interested in RP on this forum. It'd be great to have you in on this.

That's my piece.

[SForce]

Hello Mind Flayer,

My name is SForce, I am the founder and currently an administrator for the Demon Guardians. Your idea for a new Dragon Court is that of a great one; I admire your will to bring DC back to the 'promise-land' i agree with you, DC needds to be back to the promise land, back to when it was increasingly active and busy every moment of the day.

I assume that what you right about in the Clan Hall is that of a new clan being started? Do you have a name for the clan? And/or a website? (sorry if I missed it in your post(s))

I do not think that you are trying to take over DC and all of its clans, just, as you said, to "put some breath back into DC's old lungs" which I can see and agree with.

By what you say in the Clan Hall you are hoping for a Merger by all other clans to help bring DC back to its glory? Or just a group of leaders to assist you in bringing it back?

Just need some clarification. Any questions or other comments, by all means post away

Thank you,
SForce

[Chaos Creator]

I've been a part of DC for well over 10 years. Intermittently, anyway. Though, even back when I first started (around 1998), I just played the game itself. I never really got into the whole "society" thing that goes along with it. Never went to Salamander's Tavern or anything like that. It wasn't until about 4-5 years ago that I even joined a clan.
The Demon Guardians are my family and friends, now. I don't really care about all of the other fools that jump in and try to RP. I had enough of those idiots when I played around with AOL's RP world. What I'm afraid of happening is agreeing to this, and then ending up playing with a bunch of little 12-13 year olds that have no ing clue as to how to actually RP.
I've had complete campaigns be ruined because of one kid not following the rules and trying to be all gung-ho about things. I've actually banished people from my tabletop games for trying to take over the storyline. I'm a hardcore gamer and I take my gaming seriously.
I want to see some proof, or something start to happen before I consider throwing my vote your way.

[Mind Flayer]

Pleasure to speak with you, SForce. I appreciate your respect for my idea.

It's not so much a new clan being started. However, I am starting one for Mind Flayer. This idea is to unify clans under a specific banner. One aimed at the revolution of Dragon Court. No clan members will have to leave their specific clans, but the clans will be united within an order. A website will be coming down the road.

This would involve clans in their entirety. Not just leaders. If you need anymore clarification, please let me know.

As for Chaos, I understand exactly where you're coming from. Rules will be established before RPing takes place. There are qualifications. If you wish to be a part, you must join. And it join, you must be accepted. To be accepted, you must have proper command of the English language.

I understand that you want to take time before jumping in, and I respect that.

[Chaos Creator]

Sounds like a load of crap. You're never going to get the top clans to go for this.
I mean, it's a cool idea, but people just aren't into DC the way they used to be.


If you need someone to design your website, however, let me know.

[AntonyJC]

i would agree with Chaos. the life of DC is more of one person playing with 20 to 30 people and keeping up the 200 power. i know for a fact that most if not all the top 3 clans have that going with them.

so if you take this into perspective the top clan (W&W) have 838 men. so if you say that they have 38 people that only have one person. so then 800 divided between 25 chars. is 32 (that is an estimate i am not in anyway dissing W&W)

and also i know that SF has around 25 and riast has somewhere around 50. so if you think about us we have 140 - 75 that leaves uswith 65 unique members and not all of them visit the forums or even the TP.

so if you wanna have this forum started you are only gunna have 100 or so

that is my guess

[SForce]

Don't be so hateful towards his idea. I respect him for coming out and trying to establish a second-wind in DC. What's the hurt in that? Besides, we've all talked about this, top clans included, about starting something and hoping it helps bring activity back. He's the only one that actually put time and effort into doing so. And that is why I respect you for it.

Any resurgence of DC is appreciated, you are going to need to get Raistlin's attention on this issue specifically. Also, have you gone to any other clans and asked similar to what you've asked us?

I can flat out say that a merger of the Demon Guardians into a different clan is not in the books and will not happen. Though you have addressed and cleared up that issue, making this not a clan thing (though clans will be involved) but rather a unity scenario.

I understand where you're coming front, I'll get Raistlin in here as soon as I can

SF

[AntonyJC]

i wasnt bashing his idea. i think it is a good idea but i dont think that the idea would work on the scale that he wants it too

[Mind Flayer]

I fully understand the pessimism towards this idea. And I fully understand that the lists of heroes do not reflect the amount of players.

The real downfall of DC occurred shortly after TS was removed. Many people left shortly thereafter, finding no point in returning to play a character they couldn't develop a story for. We can all agree that those players from those times were fantastic, as well as genuine to the life of DC. The fact that it lived once the way it did, and even almost came back, means that it can live again.

We don't need the inclusion of each clan. We need a good few dedicated members who are willing to put forth the effort to restoring credibility to DC. Having them representing other clans would be great.

I've spoken with Sirinnu and Dragon Slayer, and it seems that W&W is for this. SOIA is also for it. Frost Knights is on a bit of a stand still, and here I am speaking with all of you. That's possibly 4 clans right there.

One thread of mine on the TP, which only lasted about 2 hours, which offered anyone who entered the TS some kind of prize if I saw them in there, reeled in over a dozen people, all of which stuck around and had conversations. The willingness is there. I just can't do this alone. If I could, I would. But it's going to take the players of DC to return DC to its former glory, or at least close to it.

I don't want to sit here and wait for Fred to get sick of holding up DC, seeing that all players are doing is hacking goods and not even visiting the TS that he brought back for us. Mark my words, he won't host this game forever. If we give him a reason to appreciate DC once more, then things will begin changing for the better. I understand if you feel my views are a bit over the top, but this is how things have been for quite some time. I remember before TS was created. I remember it's dawn and when the best of the best would flood that place. It was honestly TS that really made DC so great.

Thank you for taking your time to read my posts, everyone. Thank you to SForce for supporting my motives and giving me a hand here. Thank you Chaos for your offer. I may just take you up on that.

If you all truly find this to be a good idea, which you've said it is, then I'd hope you'd give this a try. Any attempt at revitalizing DC is worth the effort.

[Chaos Creator]

I will lend you my support with what I can, but this is going to be harder than it sounds.

And, seriously, I do webdesign. If you want something nice and custom, let me know.

[AntonyJC]

thats exactly what im saying when you get a site up come and tell us. i am fully backing you to as much as i can

[Mind Flayer]

This will certainly be difficult, but if we approach it the right way, this can happen.

Thank you, Chaos. It would be great to have you working on the design.

And thank you for your support, JC. If we can get more people behind this, in more clans, this WILL happen.

[Raistlin]

I just want to go on record with saying that I'm overwhelmed with how much others want to rally for the revitalization of DC. I've played since 2000 and it wasn't till a few months ago that I logged into TS for the first time. I'm not much of a chatter, but I love to RP. I have not had much time for it since becoming clan leader, but would still like to get to it if I can. It is always great for someone to be willing to do anything to help.... even if it isn't much newer then other things I've seen.

Back in the day there was a whole forum made to focus just on RPing. The person who made it went to all clan sites to promote it and it ended up being a total of maybe 6 members there. 4 of them were DGers. We have always been serious about doing more with DC, but we can't keep it up on our own. We tried, but in the end we never got to finish even one mission after months of RPing.

Most recently Sirinnu made an RP on the War Stories forum and went to all clans to promote it and get them all involved, but if you look at the posts you'll find most of them are DGers posts. As Chaos said there are always unintelligent posters who have a command of the english language, but are not capable of grasping the common skills needed to RP effectively.

In the end the only way to really give a DC character any amount of a back ground and story it goes to the clan forums to do the RPing and make something of themselves. If they don't even take the time to post on their own clan pages they certainly won't take time to go to someone else's site to do it there. I would foresee maybe a dozen people at the most being strongly active there.

So in closing I would say to do what you wish. First I think it would be best for you to read through all the posts here:
wild.fiends.com/cgibin/Board6.exe?cfg=DC_War&msg=37

It is the same concept, but involves an army and it has been up there for months with no activity. A total of 8 players got into it. It was done to raise activity and involved every clan that Sirinnu could contact. I love the enthusiasm, but don't foresee much coming of it. Hope you do well and I will be involved if I have time and it looks like it is going well. I tried to be a large player in that last RP there and it turned out to go nowhere.